ughhly: The cost structure boils down to, about $5.00 each way to courier 6 pack of refilled cylinders, having machinery capable of auto-filling, capping and conveying cylinders during process (approximately 100k worth of machinery) , Paying staff to actually fill, box, and receive and dispatch refilled bottles . Each cylinder is prechecked for obvious damage, and briefly checked for leakage before packaging after filling. Then the seller adds their margin onto the process. The handling fees incurred is probably most of the cost of the refill, the CO2 in the quantitys bought would be in the cents per liter.
Alphonse Capone: Don't be so angry Eric my. Factoring in all scenarios sodastream is still a con. I threw mine out rather give it away to charity to some poor schmuck to get ripped off. Yes, as a consumer I did find the best option...bought an 800L food grade CO2 bottle from my home brew store and attached a PET bottle attachment. Now I gas any PET bottle at a fraction of the cost of sodastream. My 800L gas refill costs $45.00, my 60L sodastream refill used to cost me $20.00. Doesn't take a genius to figure who's getting ripped off:-)
eric mb: God dam it people. If you cant afford a refill then stir away! Would you buy a car and then bitch about petrol prices not being affordable when you need to top up? Hopefully you take operational costs into consideration when shopping.
Thanks for the tip by the way. So a couple of questions:
1. Does that valve make it safe to refill? 2. How do we know with the bottle is full vs half full? Weight it like you did after a refill? If so, how much should the delta be when its full?
Luke Dennis: If this CO2 needs to be food grade.
Alphonse Capone: Soda-stream is a con. We only use it to carbonate our water without syrup and add fresh limes. Even doing that we calculated one 60l gas bottle gases about 20x1 litre bottles at a cost of ~$19 per gas bottle refill. We can buy 1.25l of sparkling mineral water at the supermarket for 73c a bottle, so the soda-stream is actually uneconomical; 26 bottles of supermarket sparkling water for the same price??!! Even more so if you took purchasing syrup into account as flavoured fizzy from the supermarket is not expensive either.
Jelle Dullaert: and the pressure in a CO2 cillinder is not 200 bar!! it's more like 40 - 50 bar
Jelle Dullaert: Hi everyone! Because I read a lot comments of people who worry about the quality of the co2 in industrial cilinders and cilinders for food. Myself, I work in a company where we fill CO2 and i analyse them as wel. for food co2 or gourmet as they say, the norm of h20 and 02 contamination is so high that it's always good!! the only difference in industrial and food CO2 is, that we have to analyse it as a proof of: this is ok! but the norm is always fine (sorry for my enlish :-p)
Phil Brooks: I got the dry ice at Airgas, they didn't know about 'food grade' but all their customers use dry ice for fish storage and shipping. The vid is here on youtube - search for "Refilling sodastream Co2 tanks for $1." Please use gloves!
Phil Brooks: I live in Hawaii, and nobody will ship the cartridges here, and the stores (Walmart, etc) don't have them either. Something about the filled tanks shipping by air - not allowed. I refilled them by crushing dry ice, and stuffing it into the tank, (with the valve removed of course). Works great and costs about $1 per tank.
kaysikkia2: I can't believe SodaStream has to charge $15 to get the bottle of co2 refilled. I'm not happy with their product. If I had to do It all over I would not have bought the SodaStream
Better Name Chosen: @videoben9 it's not a one way valve at all. doing it the way this guy did won't be as effective because he didn't use the bleed valve on the side, but it's definitely not a one way valve
videoben9: you know what else is funny? when people get pissed off at facts they see in youtube comments and call the person who knows what their talking about an idiot
BratFyre: You know what's really funny? People making uneducated statements on youtube and making themselves look like idiots.
BratFyre: Lots of info, if you decide to use your brain.
yanivabuh: its wary dangeres
kryznic1: What's the point of this effin video? Zero info going on here!
MrSwanley: Not true. Yes, CO2 is CO2, like water is water. But you can have contaminated CO2 just like you can have contaminated water. Food safe CO2 is of course safe. Welding CO2 should also be safe (bad CO2 might affect the weld). There is no reason for paintball or fire extinguisher CO2 to be especially clean, so I certainly wouldnt just assume that it is.
videoben9: u know wats funny? this doesnt work bcuz it a one way valve. the only way you can refill the tank yourself is with dry ice or freaking up the piece that blocks refilling
videoben9: there lying all c02 is the same.
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