Bill Glenn: But guys, don't fall into the "monster cable" syndrome where the brand
takes the spotlight as if something special. The fact is, in the case of
ground radials where currents are very, very low, the wire size, type, and
characteristics are almost insignificant. ANY good conductor of electricity
will work great. Even old weathered coax can be used to advantage. The
overall concept is simply to put a conductive surface between the vertical
element and the high-loss soil. So, yes, even chicken wire works great.
Even after it rusts and needs replacing, the soil conductivity is improved
by virtue of its very presence. Again, don't fall into the trap of
believing this is magic. Just throw down as much conductivity as you can
manage connecting. The fancy "radial plates" at the base are neat looking
but, instead, you can form a 1 to 2-foot diameter copper tubing loop to
make connections. It's not rocket science. I have an exceptional
performance from my 4BTV vertical. No expensive plates, wire, etc.
certainly no wire ordered and shipped. Home Depot has everything you could
John Smith: First let say that I don't know very much about this subject, and for that
reason I would like to ask a question. I would like to know what is the
difference between using the ground radials, opposed to using a ground rod?
I do understand that the radials add performance to the vertical antenna,
but some people claim that you only need one ground rod. It appears to me
that they have their ground systems confused in many ways. Would you agree?
Anyway I like the video.
Steve smith: The DX Engineering radial plate is where you want to attach the radials.
NOT where you have them right now. The radial plate is a great product but
your use of it here results in nothing! You need at least 32 radials. The
Hustler antenna is a pretty good antenna. There are lots of verticals out
there like the Zero Fifty 43 foot multi band or the DX Engineering 43
I've given up on stranded radial wire as it does seem to not last very
long. I use 14 gage solid insulated wire and it has been in the ground for
over 14 years with no corrosion at all. Plus it is easy to make eye ends
with the solid wire and will allow for easier attachment to the DX
Engineering radial plate.
pvdk: 120 ground radials equals 4 elevated 1/4 wave radials. Ground radials will
work down to 1/10 of a lowest freq but elevated need to be quarter wave. A
vertical needs no more than a 2 180° elevated radials to work 90° efficient
compared to at least abt. 120 on the ground. Starting with 60 will do fine
reaching around 80% of efficiency.
Elevated radials need to be 0,2 wavelength of the ground. So its easier to
use ground radials. They can be shorter but you'll need a lot more to equal
the efficiency of elevated ones. I've ran a lot of on air tests on this
pvdk: A very good document of ground versus elevated radials can be found on the
alphasxsignal: Anyone ever put a wire mesh screen around a vertical, a large one say 40 ft
mesh wire around the vertical and soldered to the base.
Blaze1024: DON'T USE STRANDED WIRE FOR RADIALS ..!! It deteriorates quickly and as it
does it creates a lot of RX noise. I've been using the same antenna for
over 10 years. A few weeks ago I pull up a few radials for inspection. Now
these radials have been in the ground for over 10 years.. I was astounded
to discovered how badly the 14awg stranded wire had deteriorated. Even
though it's PVC insulated moisture still gets into the wire. All my
stranded radials were completely deteriorated and worthless..
N2LRB: I just called Apex and I believe I found the wire you are talking about in
the video. But I wanted to check with you before purchasing it. The info on
Apex Website is: Raychen $4.75 Pound, Raychen Black (color), 14 AWG, Strand
37/31, Nom Insul Thk 0.11, P/N# wir25 Is that the same wire you purchased?
73 from N2LRB
Greg Jones: "20 gauge wire" ??? Really? Isn't that a bit small for radials?
lasernederland: My friend, why is the antenna so low to the ground? I guess that for DX its
not necessary to have i high antenna? And for local talking high antenna is
a must? Pleas explane if u want. Your Youtube Friend form 19 division.
Antonio Means: Great video...Thank you and 73... KJ6YFY Tony
Bruce Campbell: For a horizontal, and some verticals, height is important. This antenna is
designed to use the ground as sort of another element. This causes the
angle of the radiated energy direction to be lower to the horizon. This is
good for longer propagation. There is also an effect called ground wave.
These waves hug the ground. This type of antenna is also good at that.
Blaze1024: 10 years ago when I put down the radials I happened to have a 1000 foot
spool of 20AWG Polyimide coated magnet wire that I picked up at a yard sale
for $10 I was curious how long the magnet wire would last so I laid about
40 magnet wire radials alongside 60 14awg stranded radials. I was sure the
magnet wire wouldn't last a year. Boy was I wrong..!! After 10 years in the
ground all the stranded 14awg wire is totally deteriorated while the magnet
wire still looks as good as the day I buried it
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