trooper2221: when u say radial will attach to base plate, what exactly will that look like, cause looks like they are already attached to antenna? and hey what do u use to pin the radials to the ground?
radioguy1620: For my low power am station I used about 40 25 foot pieces of extension cord radially arranged around the base of the antenna, in the winter with snow cover reached out to 5 miles with 100 mw and 3 meter vertical on a sstran transmitter, other than that even tried foil tape stuck to 1 X 3 fir strips about ten ft long, but the best was with the old extension cords attached to a 3 X 4 foot aluminum plate
G. Jose Malave: PVC will crack at cold temps. anything under 40 Fahrenheit. I would like to hear how it has performed for the past 6 years.
Barry Kery: Excellent presentation. Well done and very informative. I get a lot of wire off the Apex, mostly teflon. Keep up the great videos. Barry, KU3X
Xray 2zero4: i like your vids sir. i use a counterpoise setup myself and would not have it any other way.
battlestarone: just gt a lawn edging blade and cut straight lines into the lawn using string as a guide,the push the radials into the slots you made on the lawn,in a few weeks you will see nothing and the radials will be out of you way.
Billy Bob: But guys, don't fall into the "monster cable" syndrome where the brand takes the spotlight as if something special. The fact is, in the case of ground radials where currents are very, very low, the wire size, type, and characteristics are almost insignificant. ANY good conductor of electricity will work great. Even old weathered coax can be used to advantage. The overall concept is simply to put a conductive surface between the vertical element and the high-loss soil. So, yes, even chicken wire works great. Even after it rusts and needs replacing, the soil conductivity is improved by virtue of its very presence. Again, don't fall into the trap of believing this is magic. Just throw down as much conductivity as you can manage connecting. The fancy "radial plates" at the base are neat looking but, instead, you can form a 1 to 2-foot diameter copper tubing loop to make connections. It's not rocket science. I have an exceptional performance from my 4BTV vertical. No expensive plates, wire, etc. certainly no wire ordered and shipped. Home Depot has everything you could need
John Smith: First let say that I don't know very much about this subject, and for that reason I would like to ask a question. I would like to know what is the difference between using the ground radials, opposed to using a ground rod? I do understand that the radials add performance to the vertical antenna, but some people claim that you only need one ground rod. It appears to me that they have their ground systems confused in many ways. Would you agree? Anyway I like the video.
alphasxsignal: Anyone ever put a wire mesh screen around a vertical, a large one say 40 ft circle of mesh wire around the vertical and soldered to the base.
Steve smith: The DX Engineering radial plate is where you want to attach the radials. NOT where you have them right now. The radial plate is a great product but your use of it here results in nothing! You need at least 32 radials. The Hustler antenna is a pretty good antenna. There are lots of verticals out there like the Zero Fifty 43 foot multi band or the DX Engineering 43 footer also.
I've given up on stranded radial wire as it does seem to not last very long. I use 14 gage solid insulated wire and it has been in the ground for over 14 years with no corrosion at all. Plus it is easy to make eye ends with the solid wire and will allow for easier attachment to the DX Engineering radial plate.
pvdk: A very good document of ground versus elevated radials can be found on the steppir website.
pvdk: 120 ground radials equals 4 elevated 1/4 wave radials. Ground radials will work down to 1/10 of a lowest freq but elevated need to be quarter wave. A vertical needs no more than a 2 180° elevated radials to work 90° efficient compared to at least abt. 120 on the ground. Starting with 60 will do fine reaching around 80% of efficiency. Elevated radials need to be 0,2 wavelength of the ground. So its easier to use ground radials. They can be shorter but you'll need a lot more to equal the efficiency of elevated ones. I've ran a lot of on air tests on this subject.
Bruce Campbell: For a horizontal, and some verticals, height is important. This antenna is designed to use the ground as sort of another element. This causes the angle of the radiated energy direction to be lower to the horizon. This is good for longer propagation. There is also an effect called ground wave. These waves hug the ground. This type of antenna is also good at that.
Richard Fusinski: NO radials or ground required for this antenna, works better then any vertical I have ever used.
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Blaze1024: 10 years ago when I put down the radials I happened to have a 1000 foot spool of 20AWG Polyimide coated magnet wire that I picked up at a yard sale for $10
I was curious how long the magnet wire would last so I laid about 40 magnet wire radials alongside 60 14awg stranded radials. I was sure the magnet wire wouldn't last a year. Boy was I wrong..!! After 10 years in the ground all the stranded 14awg wire is totally deteriorated while the magnet wire still looks as good as the day I buried it
Blaze1024: DON'T USE STRANDED WIRE FOR RADIALS ..!!
It deteriorates quickly and as it does it creates a lot of RX noise. I've been using the same antenna for over 10 years. A few weeks ago I pull up a few radials for inspection. Now these radials have been in the ground for over 10 years.. I was astounded to discovered how badly the 14awg stranded wire had deteriorated. Even though it's PVC insulated moisture still gets into the wire. All my stranded radials were completely deteriorated and worthless..
Antonio Means: Great video...Thank you and 73... KJ6YFY Tony
Greg Jones: "20 gauge wire" ??? Really? Isn't that a bit small for radials?
N2LRB: I just called Apex and I believe I found the wire you are talking about in the video. But I wanted to check with you before purchasing it. The info on Apex Website is:
Raychen $4.75 Pound, Raychen Black (color), 14 AWG, Strand 37/31, Nom Insul Thk 0.11, P/N# wir25
Is that the same wire you purchased?
73 from N2LRB
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