DAVID CARTER: Pleasure talking with you, keep up the excellent videos.
dmerc00: Yes this is a feature that is a must-to-have on the stabilizer. Not sure if this is an oversight by the manufacturer, hard to implement or just cost prohibitive. The prophets missed the church on this one!
I have got to admit that I didn't even notice the problem.
DAVID CARTER: Yes you are right but the problem still arises you cannot use separate sub trim or aileron throw by using a single servo wing set up. I think this is either design fault on the Orange or a design fault in the DX8. Most wings have 2 servos and you need to adjust each one individually if you are using the stabiliser, just the same as if you are not using the stabiliser. Nice to hear your comments, very much appreciated.
dmerc00: Ah! So you have Version 3 with built-in receiver not the V1 show in this video. Thanks for clarifying that.
You are right that the dual aileron wing type is of no use with V3. Not needed for V1 or V2 either.
But I think they all can use the left and right aileron outputs for the two servos instead of the Y if the servos are not mechanically opposed/reversed. You might have to flip one servo around to make it work.
But still the dual aileron wing type should not be set in the radio.
DAVID CARTER: Thanks very much. Perhaps I failed to mention I am using the combined receiver and gyro. I had exactly the same problem when using the V2 gyro with a separate receiver. All "V" and Delta tails are off and no flaps. Just to confirm with a 2 servo wing setup and when I put the right aileron into the aileron connector of the receiver/gyro and the left into the AUX you cannot turn the gyro OFF from your transmitter. Works OK, like in your video with a "Y" connector and one servo setup.
DAVID CARTER: Thanks for your reply. I do not have retracts and use the Gear switch to control the gyro off and on. But if you use a standard 2 servo wing set up the gear switch does not turn the gyro off or on. The only way I have found to get the switch to work is again to have a single servo set up for the ailerons and ` "Y" connector. This is not good as most planes these days have two indipendant servos allowing you to control each aileron sub trim separately.
dmerc00: Thanks for telling me about this. No one else notice.
Mmmm, sounds like the dual aileron wing type that you are referring to.
Your right I didn't think of that conflict. The AUX1 would not be available for the gyro on/off switch that way,
but you probably could use the gear channel for the gyro switch instead (provided you don't have retracts).
Otherwise, as you said, use the Y-cable for the ailerons.
DAVID CARTER: Hi, an outstanding video but you fail to mention that the on/off switch only works if you have a wing setup using one servo. I also have a DX8 and it took many hours to find out that if you have a wing set on your transmitter using 2 servos you cannot switch the stabiliser OF and ON. Your video indicates you have a choice of using one to two servos, one with a "Y" lead. Am I missing something here?
David Holt: Hey Rocky. I think this would be more likely to work with the basic KK board. I will try it and let you know.
dardi jones: i dont like stabilisers. I think people should leard how to fly the plane and keep it stable instead
dmerc00: I am not sure how that could be done electronically without problems.
rocky walker: Sry. That's not what I mean. The kk2 has a very poor self stabilizing system. ESP on quads. What I wonder is if u can use this with a kk2 for such as a quad to fix the lack of , the kk2 has for self-balancing
dmerc00: Yes, I have heard that the KK2 has self leveling and if programmed properly can be used for airplanes.
RCgroups had information about it.
rocky walker: Do u think this can be used in the KK2 board to fix its lack of self Leveling
dmerc00: The plane in the video uses a Y cable on the ailerons as well.
As explained in the video the Y is connected to the right aileron channel.
You could use the left instead of the right if you need to reverse the action.
AHMED BOUMBA-NGOMA: I need some help because my alierons servos are conected into a Y wire. How do I connect it
theleabres: I just got mine and your video helped a lot. Thanks. Subscribed!
dmerc00: No I don't think you need it for storm OSD since it has stabilization already.
soroush zed: Hello ,if i have storm osd , do i still need this ?
dmerc00: Yes you can use it without the remote on/off and without any input from the radio.
Keep in mind it does NOT have GPS, heading hold, return to home, or auto pilot so if you lose control from the radio the plane will eventually crash.
dmerc00: Yes, the default is for it to stay on.
TruckerManNow: can this device be installed in a 4 channel type RTF kit and it work entirely on its own? Meaning that no inputs would be required from the radio itself. Good video..thanks
TruckerManNow: Can I install it in a 4 channel trainer type aircraft without worrying about adjusting it from my radio? Can it just be turned on prior to flight and be ready to go? Thanks...Good video too
dmerc00: Thanks for your comments. Sounds like a good approach to adjusting the gains.
RonALampman: If oscillations are noticed, continue to turn the gyros down until they stop. At this point I like to use a small Keychain camera mounted on the aircraft. If oscillations are noticed in the video, (except for in high wind) turn the gyro pots down in small increments. This should smooth everything out. Generally, when I do the bench adjustments, the aircraft fly quite well. Hope this helps and Happy flying!
RonALampman: dmerc00, The "hunting" jitters of the servos is due to the gain pots being set too high. If you were to try to fly like that, you would get bad oscillations that get worse at higher speeds. I adjust my gyros down low and sit the aircraft down so it will remain still. Then I crank up one of the gyro pots at a time until I get jitters, and back off just enough for it to stop.
dmerc00: No I don't but go to MikeysRC channel and he has complete plans and build vids on the Trainer Plane we used.
Gary Potter: Thanks for the video. You have one of the build you did for the plane you used to test the OrangeRx stablizer? Or maybe a link?
I also made two videos on version 2 of this stab which has some extra features like being able to be turned off remotely.
Jonnysea1986: This is really interesting.
dmerc00: Thanks for watching!
womackke: cool plane nice style
V2 is up next.
JohnVelojet: Very helpful! Thanks muchly for making and posting!
dmerc00: I have ordered the V2 to test but don't have it yet.
Probably will take 3 weeks coming from China.
VTOLKits: They have V2 now with switch for delta mix and switch for v-tail mix, very good and cheap.
dmerc00: It looks like this version is "Rate Mode" only.
Mike Dawson: On a heli, if they go back to center immediately after you move it by hand, that means "Rate Mode" instead of "Heading Hold" mode
dmerc00: I imagine this gyro system will get a lot of use.
Thanks for posting!
pointnozzleaway: i just put one on my 800mm T6 Texan. used aileron only. super simple and worked awesome !
dmerc00: Yes does the same hunting on my AS3X Hyper Taxi.
When I set it down the hunting stops.
dmerc00: Three! We are keeping HK in business :)
I still need to put one on my Bixler glider and test.
3FLYTE: well it finally came back in stock, so i ordered three :) i will experiment with it on my t28 and some others.
3FLYTE: Gain is almost like what's on my as3x beast umx. it does not bother me in the least when it hunts like that.
GrumpyMadman: Ok, I guess the gain was probably set a little high a the start. Glad to hear it is alright as I imagine the price is right. It is just so hit and miss with some of Hobby Kings stuff.
dmerc00: Later in the video you will see that with adjustment the chatter will stop when the plane is set down. My main complaint with this unit is that it can not be switched on/off remotely with the radio otherwise it's ok.
GrumpyMadman: Looks like a piece of cheap junk to me, nothing but continual servo chatter? If you set the plane down do the servo still continually chatter?
dmerc00: Thank you very much!
cleirig: The three video's make a clear and comprehensive "how to" on the three axis stabilizer.
dmerc00: Sounds great. I will have a look at the thread. I imagine there is some good information there.
HobbyKing Orange RX 3-Axis Flight Stabilizer Gyro System - Part 1 of 3 - good for FPV or Jets4.3
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