Donovan Myers: I've gotten this question a lot across my various stick mod videos. The best advice I can give is to follow the traces on the ribbon cables. They are labeled at the PCB. I believe the extra wire is just another ground.
Jose Hinojosa: i'm trying to do this mod on a MLG version of the TE, and it has 2 six ribbon cables instead the 5 and 6 as in your video. any help?
Donovan Myers: Are you talking about the 'break away' part of an Xbox cable? And are you talking about the one that came with your stick or the Paewang? The Paewang comes with a USB cable.
NoblesseOblige: So I accidently stepped on the end part of the cable that connects to the USB adaptor of my TE stick. It's bent out of shape and doesn't fit anymore. Is your tutorial only for when the cable is cut throughout the middle? Or does that mean that I have to buy another cable and cut both in half so that I can join them?
fefobiz: Thank you kind sir! And sorry for being rude before, I was upset because I had dropped my Stick on the floor and I kinda had to open it and fix with 0 knowledge.
All good now though.
Donovan Myers: Printed Circuit Board. AKA green rectangles with metal stuff and wires on them.
fefobiz: what the freak is a pcb
Donovan Myers: Nope, sorry to confuse. Was just saying I don't know too much about it because when I dual moded my _360_ VLX, that I just popped a VLX Kitty in there. Your best bet with a PS3 stick is still the Akishop PS360+.
devasteitorzero: So you tell me that i need The kitty and ps360+ to use The VLX dual mod ?
Donovan Myers: I don't know off hand, I'm pretty sure that that area has wires that lead back to the main PCB in the metal casing. If so, you should be able to intercept those and use them as well. My VLX is a 360 version and I ended up using the super simple VLX Kitty to dual mod it.
devasteitorzero: Thx man and what about The turbo, select, home bottons and The switch level?
Donovan Myers: I have never come across anyone who's shorted out a PCB in the TE. And I myself have done some sketchy things that should have killed it. I would double check to make sure that the USB wires are securely connected and not crossed in anyway.
Donovan Myers: Thanks for the interest. Unfortunately I don't have an Akishop PS360+. I only have the old model Akishop. But I do have a VLX. There are a lot of harnesses in that stick. You can easily disconnect the USB & stick/button wires and cut off any connectors and put them in the proper slots in the Akishop PCB. If you don't want to cut anything, try and research making your own (.110 connectors & JLF harness & just cut up a spare USB cable).
devasteitorzero: Hi Donovan, can u make a tutorial about how installing the Akishop PS360+ in a Hori PS3 VLX ? Thx
I9IIEIIYIIEIIS: Hi Donovan, I had some bare wires in my TE. I was testing buttons with the TE turned on, I think a wire came in contact with something it shouldn't have, and possibly shorted something. Anyways, I'm not getting any power to the TE. Is there anything I could do, or test? Greatly appreciated.
Donovan Myers: The Paewang complete replaces any other PCB, and I don't believe it offers any 3-way capabilities. Since you have a 360 stick, you could use a dual-mod board, like the Phreak Mods TEasy Strike and that does let you have 3-way capability for PS3 and 360.
dawoud8013: hi ! thank you for your vidéo ! can you say me if this 3-way Joystick option is always fonctionnal when you pass in XBOX360 mod ? if not, do you know if it's possible to add a 3-way Joystick fonction in my Hori X360 Soul Edition ?
thank you !
Donovan Myers: Yes, you can just cut off the ends of the ribbon cables for any mods. I don't know the SF x T layout, but you could find out yourself pretty easy: just look at where the ribbon cable hooks up to the PCB and it should be labeled. Alternatively, you could take a multi-meter and test continuity from the signal wire coming out of the punch-down (that's labeled) and a wire to figure it out.
Sorry for the late reply, busy with the holidays.
Alonzo Cunningham: could i do what you did at 10:17 with the mc cuthulhu?
and if so what is the lay out when both are 6 wires from the punch down?
im useing the playstation version sf x tekken vs pro stick
jp mansfield: hi, i just wired everything up and it seems that only the joystick works. Can you please help me ?
Donovan Myers: The Paewang that you can get from Focus Attack is a multi-console version (PS3/360/PC). I wasn't aware Paewang had a stick/PCB that didn't do both 360/PS3. I'm not sure what you mean by low input read. I don't have any testing equipment to know the exact millisecond rating of input registers, but it feels just as responsive as any other stick I have (MadCatz, Hori, Akishop, etc.)
Daniel Kobuszewski: Hey man great vid. I understand that this paewong PCB is the newer version of mayflash/paewong usb fighting stick PCB that also supports x360 instead of only ps3 and PC ? It looks exactly the same. I heard that this PCB has low input read. Is that true ?
Donovan Myers: I think the Presoldered Bundle is basically like it was ripped out of one of their sticks. It has the USB cable, wiring harness for the buttons and joystick. The PCB only would require you to provide your own joystick and button wires as well as solder them to the PCB. You probably also have to provide USB cable and solder it as well. If you aren't super anal and want everything soldered by you, I'd go with the bundle.
weldone0: I have to choose between 2 versions of paewang revolution( PCB only or Presoldered Bundle) . do you know what is the difference between these???
Donovan Myers: Good to know! If you have a volt meter, you could use the continuity setting to test which wire of the ribbon cable was which. I'm pretty sure that the main PCB is labeled where the ribbon cables connect on the other end of the punch down. It is on the TE and VS. You also might try searching Google images for 'Mad Catz TE-S pinout'. You could also try following the traces from the ribbon cable connectors to the .112" male quick disconnects that the button wires are connected to, they're labeled.
albinobean: Hey Donovan, the ribbon cables that connect to the TE-S are both 6 wire cables, is there anyway to tell which cable corresponds to which button on the actual ribbon? I like the simplicity of the punch out and would rather I not have to get rid of it.
Oscar Camarena: Oh nice though! I thought that was a Kraylix, but I noticed some differences. Thanks for getting back!
Donovan Myers: No, it's my take on the Vewlix cabinet that I designed and built by hand in 2008/2009. It was featured by Seth on the Capcom website in April 2009. Kray took the plans I put up on my website donovanmyers[dot]com, tweaked them, and started producing and selling them - which I'm totally fine with because I get requests for me to build them all the time and I'm happy to point people to him. He has great stuff and has really taken the cabinets much further.
Oscar Camarena: THANKS! By the way, is that the Kraylix custom cabinet in the background in the beginning of the video?
jp mansfield: Thank you very much. I need to make my 360 TE work for the ps3 as well. Now I can finally go to tournaments .
Donovan Myers: Yes, the only difference with the TE and TE-S is the slight change to the case to have smaller sides and full-size top panel. The components are all the same - maybe a minor revision to the PCB, but you're replacing that. ;)
Hector Galarza: would this work with a tournament edition S stick?
Donovan Myers: Yup, like the Akishop PCB, it's not a "dual-mod" (add-on) board, it's a complete replacement for the main PCB in the stick. You can put a Paewang in anything.
jp mansfield: Can the Paewang Revolution work on the 360 TE as well? As in a revers mod to what you did 360 TE to PS3. And would the mod be done the same way ?
DarkAvatar1313: the original design of the paewang (plus it had other names over time) didn't have a common ground, so some older models won't. most places selling the pcb by itself are the new ones however. but you should always check with a multimeter with a continuity function (put one probe on each ground and if it beeps it means they are connected and thus common)
Donovan Myers: I did this tutorial on a PS3 TE. As far as I know, the LED boards are independent of the PCB and function based on detecting button signals (and run off ground/power pulled from anything), so I don't see why not. ;)
Oscar Camarena: Can this tutorial work for a PS3 TE as well? And can I link this with a led board as well?
dtkrob: Thanks for taking the time to reply ! And thanks for the video ! I'm gonna be picking up one soon and the installing should be a breeze with this video !
Donovan Myers: Yes, the Paewang is common ground. I didn't think it was at first because of all the connectors for the joysticks that had their own ground, but as you saw in the video I only used 1 ground and the 4 signals to use a common ground joystick (JLF) with the PCB.
dtkrob: Cool video just one question is this pcb common ground ? Thanks
dtkrob: Cool video I have a question is this pcb common ground or no ?? Thanks
ThePurpleHaez: Is there a difference in soldering the GND wire coming from the stick's default PCB, 9:38, to the Paewang's SGND or GND? *Many thanks in advance!
Donovan Myers: The only reason I can come up with is because it didn't work properly when I tried it without the VCC connection. :P I think because the home & turbo buttons are not mechanical, you need current (power) running through them to function properly.
jayehs: is there a reason why you need to wire VCC to Madcatz pcb? Wouldn't it work just with Home & Turbo signal wires and Ground? Madcatz PCB doesn't have to be powered does it? Thanks!
bajefist2: I have a problem with the right direction on the pcb not responding at all
360fearsps3: thnx for the reply.. lol i figured it out... it wasn't that... i realized that both the guide and turbo part of the pcb was soldered on too much so some were on top the ground side too. so i took off some and it worked... thnx again for the awesome instruction..
Donovan Myers: Someone else had a similar issue, it was as simple as the lock being on. The lock isn't on is it? ;)
360fearsps3: Hey, buddy so i installed everything and its hella amazing :) my only issue right now is that the turbo and the guide button isn't working? It is currently inside my 360 MADCATZ TE. I checked everything and all buttons are functional except the TURBO & GUIDE button. Also I have un-soldered the paewang usb and replaced it with the 360 usb ( i thought it was nicer and longer :/ ) Could that be a factor in why it isn't working... or am I missing something?
Donovan Myers: I have not done any lag tests, and I can't claim to be sensitive to input lag either. However, I would say the Akishop & Paewang are on par with each other. They both feel great on PS3 and 360 to me. Akishop is a unicorn at this point, so Paewang really is your best option for 360/PS3 dual compatibility in a non 360 stick.
Donovan Myers: Not sure what other tests you can do besides verifying power & turbo functionality. Is this a 360 or PS3? On the PS3 all of the functionality is on the Home/Turbo PCB. But with the 360 there's a separate main PCB for everything else. Does nothing else work? How do you know it's been damaged? Too many factors here to really give an opinion. ;)