Clipper Blade Sharpening Hollow Grinding




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Stephen Lavender: It should be a perfectly flat cone shaped disk, which when it rotates produces the same effect as using the side of a cylinder. So you have a high point at the front on the blade tips and at the back on the heel of the blade with a shallow hollow in between. This greatly reduces friction, as only the front and back of the blades meet. If the hollow is dish shaped then your disk is wearing out, it should be a parallel sided hollow as if made by the side of a rotating cylinder.

Colin Butt: The plate is NOT a stone, it is a Aluminium plate machined CONVEX 1mm on the outer side,we use Aluminium Oxide for abrasive, please contact me again if you want to know where to buy from.

Colin Butt: You can but flat is not flat,you have to use a dial gauge to find the sweet spot,on the plate and that is where you must finish on. No one can machine any plate dead flat. Hollow grind is new technology it is 100% perfect,flat sharpening gives shearing of the blades and when the space in between the plates teeth worn, it stops working,where as hollow grind gives a scissoring effect,and doesn't stop working,if you give me your email I can send you some pix,thank you.

T3slaTroop3r: WHAT KIND OF STONE SO U USE FOR SHARP

Colin Butt: This plate is NOT flat,it is con vexed,much like a dinner plate upside down. That is what gives the hollow grind,you shouldn't assume anything till you find out the facts.

Colin Butt: Hi there, can can you show me what a hollow grind plate looks like.

Colin Butt: Hi there the machine you are looking at has a convex plate,which machines a hollow grind on the blades.

Colin Butt: Plates are 16" wide

Colin Butt: @antheamirhosseini Hi there, if you go to Google and type in Treyco you find the plate you are looking for.

Colin Butt: The clipper blades are made from carbon steel which will rust with any water on them,once they rust the very edge you are trying to achieve will have pits on the edge caused by the rust. with this wheel it is convexed,not flat,much like a dinner plate upside down,and the blade has to sit ontop of the ridge so you can get the hollow grind,it has to sit prefectly on the ridge,not a bit forward or a bit back. I use 180 grit,but other sharpeners use 200>400 grit.

thor20014: how was that hollow grinding? I've been sharpening tools most of my life and I opperate a similar machine and there is no hollow grinding

Colin Butt: Buy the machine you won't go wrong,we will play when you get it. In the mean time contact ask questions.

David K: @nicestman77 let's say that hollow grinding the comb(bottom:they are flat or or ignorably hollowed) of a blade set is OK but not the best. And big problem is that covexed plate get damaged faster when it cut flat comb(bottom) part. you know that new plate or resurfacing is expensive. i just think so in theory but no experience.

Colin Butt: Flat hone blades doesn't last as long as hollow hone,flat hone is 30 year old technology,you would have to own both to understand,hollow hone blades last much longer before resharpening is required,it all has to do with the way the sharp edges strike each other,they scissor,where as flat hone only shear until the gap between the 2 plates wear from abrasives(dirt) Much like how a pair of scissors work.

Colin Butt: Hi there, if you go to Google and type in Treyco you find the plate you are looking for.

Brennan29: Hi, I am buying a used Treyco on Ebay. Id like to know more about the machine from someone who uses one. Can you contact me and talk to me if I send you my contact info? I wont use a ton of your time. Thanks in advance!

Colin Butt: Hi there, just about to go out from home, you are welcome to contact me skype patrickbutt or colinbut bigpond net au

Colin Butt: Hi James, Treyco should supply spacers with every machine,but not to worry,they are not necessary/needed,if you like I can measure them,but it would not help you in the long run,and would be very hard metal the right sizes. The spacers are only good if you are going to machine a lets say machine a Oster blade,but when you was going to machine another brand you could get caught out, because all blade brands are different thicknesses on the bottom plate.I teach sharpeners all over the world.

David K: as far as i know, todays, most small blades are hollowground top and almost flat bottom(comb) on a blade set. however, the video shows sharpening the top and bottom at the same time on the same plate. in my understanding, they must be sharpened seperately. how do you think, niceman? i am starting the business.

Colin Butt: Please, if you feel you are sharpening the way blade should be sharpened, that is the main thing, you stick to the way you know best.

aqeelmir: can i use this grander to sharpning grander to make razzer scissors?

davetileguy: Whats the ultimate way to sharpen? could you use watercooled diamond wheels? or how about a milling machine? I'm assuming shears need to be ultra flat as upposed to"sharp". so would a finer grit with a coolant be better? anything to help would be great!

Colin Butt: I hollow grind both,but saying that, I get my plates from Poland,machined in the University for Mechanical Engineers,we have our own formula for the plates I use,Treyco plates are ok/good,you will get great success with Treyco plates,but they don't do a lot of blades,the plates I use are 6mm wider, and the quality of the plates I use have a certificate with them,they are made from big ships propeller shafts,cut into biscuits. Get back if you need anything else.

antheamirhosseini: hi can you tell me how big the plate is. And is ,the convex 1mm as you say .i have a flat plate grinder but i need to get a honing plate made because in the uk there are no supplyers that i can find to supply a plate

Colin Butt: Ashley, please do a video of your machine, and put it on YouTube. Or, at lease let me know who machines your plates for you,it is very hard to find someone who knows how to machine them.

Colin Butt: Actual fact is cost about AU$3700 to Australia from USA GST/import duties. Unfortunatlly if you want to do sharpening properly you have to spend that sort of money, To develop the machine would take a lot of work.

marcos2296: hi , where i can buy that machine and what the price?

outboundshipping: this sharpening device cost 1,000's of dollars. who can afford this unit??

Colin Butt: @aqeelmir NO

Colin Butt: @antheamirhosseini Hi there, if you go to Google and type in Treyco you find the plate you are looking for.

Colin Butt: What country are you in? I couldn't find it on eBay.

T3slaTroop3r: ahh i need to know where to get one ,

kdee29: where can i get a magnetic holder from?

Colin Butt: Flat sharpening is not very good, this hollow grind the blades scissor,and last a long time between sharpens, Flat sharpening is old technology.

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