Herman Williams Golf: James, you could certainly do that, but it likely would impede some of the flowing speed you get as the club transitions and the wrists set or hinge a little extra starting down. The other warning is a big forward press often leads to a takeaway path that is too far inside causing swing plane issues throughout the rest of swing. avoid thse pitfalls and it may work fine for you. thanks for commenting
rskim119: I would have loved to see Herman do a demonstration of this lesson. Too often I see teachers preaching concepts/positions that are absent in the actual swing.
FrankN Shank: SPOT ON! This is the stuff that makes the golf swing WORK!
James Long: Herman ... would there be anything wrong with setting the hands at address - left wrist flat, right wrist flexed back - and then maintaining that position thru the top of the swing & into the beginning of the downswing unchanged? Thanx!
Herman Williams Golf: Thanks for commenting Adam. It is in the straightening process as you are moving through the ball. It varies with the individual but I would say most players will see full straightening approx 2 feet past the ball. You'll see Vijay and Freddie Couples right hand practically come off the club as they have literally "thrown" it down the fairway beyond the ball.
Rudy Cramer: Well explained. The delivery was just full of facts. Loved it! I've had trouble doing this. I asked a pro many years ago in a lesson does the right arm straighten? He never gave me a YES or NO answer. You say YES so now I'll give this a go.
alpione: Thanks for the video! How long should we keep the right wrist bent? It needs to be so through impact at least to help maintain a flat left wrist, but when should it be straightened (if at all?)
Herman Williams Golf: Try moderate pressure with left hand for reasonably firm control of club and light pressure with right as it is just hooked into the fingers on that hand.
Mahavishnu80: I dont know how hard i should squeeze the club. Some videos say press moderately, some like your holding toothpaste and shouldn't squeeze.
Herman Williams Golf: Simple answer is ... YES. Thanks for watching and commenting. - Herman
bizallin: 4:30-5:10 is sheer brilliance.
victorhsu813: Hi there. I will definitely give this a try. Does this apply when hitting driver, fairway woods and all irons?
Rob Roy: You're on the right track John Doe. Right hand grip soft enough to allow flexing/hinging of the wrist. To maintain that hinged position and avoid over using the right hand thru impact, a certain degree of rhythm and timing during the transition that will allow acceleration to impact will result in solid shots with your hands leading the clubhead.
Den Surak: This is the best video I've seen, it describes my technique to a 'T'. After years of hearing nothing but 'left' this, 'left' that and 'left' the other thing, I finally said hey, I'm right handed and I'm gonna figure out how to play this game right handed! From grip to hinge to elbow to release, this vid describes my method. If you are dominantly right handed, try this.
John Doe: Keep youre right hand completely loose. You'll find that the
hingeing motion will happen automatically
AmericanGunPacker: Geez I could have used this 18 months ago when I started playing.
Tried it on the course today. Furthest Ive ever hit a 6 iron and right on target.
MrNumania: great tip mate but doing this action late? can you release to earley ?cheers mark
jonny88: Great video
jonny88: Hi Herman great video I come across this video after looking for some reassurance that I was on right track as I've gone from strong left /right grip too neutral left and weak right I used too have real problem with a hook off the tee but this seems to be working so thanks great video
hudlumfarter: best video on youtube by miles and miles.
Gary Lewis: Great video. My right hand has slipped off the top of the left thumb, causing disconnection at the top, cupped left, and pretty straight right wrist. Am now working on the right hand grip back on top of left thumb and the trigger position. That means left wrist will cup more for awhile,resulting in push fades until swing improvements are made. People with limited external shoulder rotation might have to work on flexibility to be able to get the proper right elbow and wrist positions.
vince guest: So right hand weak,knuckle pushing forward,trigger finger,dorsiflex to some degree or other in the backswing,90* right elbow down and into the ribs,weight shift,palm down,pressure and then throw.. right palm facing down....easy....sounds good I'll try that!
robinsonji73: Hi Herman. Great tip. I have been sifting through many youtube videos for some self fix tips for my slice that has been plaguing me for months now (getting worse the more I think about it and try to correct). This video, along with the left flat wrist video made an almost immediate impact for the better. Found personally concentrating slightly on the right wrist flexion direction during takeaway versus trying to worry about flat wrist required less conscious effort (I am RH). Many thanks.
Herman Williams Golf: Great question ... yes it can. You can actually hinge the wrists either too far inside, diagonally on-plane or vertically too steep. Certain players will need one of these extremes of hinge position to fit best with other elements of their swing plane, posture, shoulder plane, etc. If you think you tend to get too flat or laid off, you might want more of a vertical wrist hinge than what's in this video to balance things out at the top. (dorsiflexion is the spelling) Good luck. - Herman
Daniel Calise: Hi Herman this is a great video on what the right hand does, but can that flexion cause you to get flat on your take away if you do it to soon? What is the spelling for flexion , dorside?
Herman Williams Golf: Nikhil, I'm sorry I removed the second half of your comment by accident ... hit the wrong button. But you basically asked if it would work to use the body release senorchipotle described along with the hands release I describe. My answer is YES ... use both sources of power to maximum advantage. Body clears, wrists hold the hinge with plenty of lag and then it all unleashes thru the hit. Good luck. - Herman
Marco Kunzmann: tray on top, are you serious? omg ... this is so bad
Nikhil Manna: I understand this is about the release sensation but even then Herman, are the wrist functioning but most sensation is felt elsewhere...the swing of senorchipotle can be used alongside the wrist drills you described!?!? This is to maximize distance....
Herman Williams Golf: That's correct. We're not advocating that the palms actually face each other. I will occasionally teach palms facing to some students, but most will do best following the anatomically neutral position of each palm turned slightly inward.
knockplayer: Herman, I've felt for many years that my right hand, wrist, and arm, along with my right hand grip were wrecking my swing. Especially my right hand grip and right wrist condition throughout my swing. I see that you're in Raleigh. I'm only an hour away. Looks like I will be driving to Raleigh to see you. Thanks for the great video and make room for me on your lesson book. I'll email you soon.
andeochful: "both palms" , sorry
andeochful: Alot of instruction indicates that both plans should face each other. If the left hand is so strong and the right hand is weak or neutral, the palms will not be opposite.
dannyfr22: another great video mate. all your videos help so much
scratchgolfermd: Lagnload on youtube says in his videos to keep the right wrist bent before, at and after impact and follow through.....which is correct?
haricsl: Great set of vids, very concise and articulate. I agree with pretty much everything you say. However, I too disagree with the right arm push through swing shot. I agree you can teach a golf swing like that but in my opinion the feeling should relate more to the left arm swinging as a result of body pivot, rather than the right arm hitting..imo Thanks
ubb4me: Ive been working on these wrist positions. Its amazing how many flaws are cured by having the correct hand positions. I am now hitting the ball instead of slapping at it. Thanks for the weaker grip suggestion. I tend to hook the ball more than what I want. I also like the fact that the weaker grip will flatten my legt wrist more at the top. Thanks for the video.
Herman Williams Golf: As an addon, I do think a player can learn to manually manipulate the hands to finally get a sensation of a square clubface and solid hit and then as he progresses can probably graduate to the swing senorchipotle describes. But if they are already a weak slicer, I think you have to attack the hands and get an immediate difference before moving to a dead-handed, body-release type of swing.
Herman Williams Golf: No, if i did I'd be teaching it. I totally understand your point. It works well for good players who basically already do everything pretty well anyway. But if you've spent years in the trenches like I have watching thousands of hackers come up with every conceivable way to screw up a golf shot, you'd realize there are people who have a flat left wrist, bent right wrist, come over the plane, hang back on back foot, spin out & wipe across the ball open because that flat hand doesn't face target.
senorchipotle: That's true, but only if you're flipping through impact. If the golfer is keeping a straight lead arm with a flat left wrist and bent right wrist at impact, it's impossible to wipe across it, unless they're severely under plane.
Do you not feel it's easier to get them to do that than to learn to manually manipulate the club and depend completely on timing?
Herman Williams Golf: Apparently we disagree, but thanks for commenting and providing your input. It will surely help some on this forum. The humans swinging the club are the difficult, unpredictable part of the process. What you describe will work for some, but in my experience most amateurs at least will struggle with that description. They turn the body thru and wipe across the ball with the face wide open. Granted if the face is closed enough at hip high coming down, then you can just turn through.
senorchipotle: I agree with you up until about 4:15. It's impossible to square up the clubface in an efficient and repeatable manner using the hands. Isn't it the body's job to square the clubface by keeping the upper body turning through the shot and allowing momentum to bring the club through?
TheMeanmachine87: Great vid! I cast the club late in the downswing. How can hold the lag longer?
ariezdiezh: great explanation for late wrist movement on golf swing
Herman Williams Golf: Alter your grip if necessary, but the key is to have the leading edge of the clubface line up with your left forearm at top of backswing. Although it is prevalent with most pros, you don't always have to have a flat wrist to succeed.
crisisofconsciousnes: my right wrist really prevents me keeping a straight left wrist, help!!??
Herman Williams Golf: Probably so when you've had such a strong habit of casting. Ultimately you want to keep training to get comfortable that you can get the handle past the ball and still square up the clubface in time to avoid slicing. At first, your brain will not want to give up hitting at the golf ball. You've got to learn to swing thru the ball and on to the true target down the fairway. Imagine throwing the club downrange vs throwing it at the ball. Good luck.
Abe Abrahamian: Herman great video. I started playing golf 4 years ago and want to improve dramatically. I have seen myself on video with the cupped left wrist. This has helped a lot. I recently started scoring in the mid-80's however I am still scooping and loosing major power and accuracy. One very important question. Should we hold the right wrist position and let the force of the swing make contact with the ball?
Herman Williams Golf: I'm not sure I agree with Jack on the likelihood of casting, but if we really check this wrist position closely, he's got it right. The truth is, most people will never realistically have the palm facing straight up even when thinking about the tray of dishes. I'm willing to present it that way knowing it will likely help more people than suggesting it is a 45-degree angle. Ultimately the goal is sufficient wrist hinge for power and a square clubface ... lots of ways to get it. Thanks for input.
secretogolf: Herman shouldn't the top of the right wrist postion be at about 45 degrees.In Nicklaus' Golf My Way he has this position as being the best-45 degrees-,sighting that in the tray position there is a better chance of casting the club.