Mason Archer: I'm not sure about my specific grip, but I was at the range this morning
and finally found what helped cure my slice which was what you're talking
about in the video. For me, it helped to think of my release like I wanted
to slap the ball at contact. Without conscious effort, using this release
stopped my slice, kept my elbow in and squared the club face. Much better
distance as well. Also, like you mentioned, it feels like you're going to
hook it or hit it way left but so long as you keep the left arm straight
you hit the ball straight. I actually hit a fade this morning doing this!
Great video explaining this, it really could help fix a slice; this is
coming from someone who spent all summer getting frustrated with my slice.
Jeffrey Bartone: I was Herminated! By the Herminator! Thanks Mr. Williams for the lucid
illustration of right hand work. Can't wait to get to my next golf shot.
canefan17: What are some causes to a flat right wrist at the top?
Grant Hooper: this strong grip stuff needs clarified. not sure if you meant to suggest
that if a weekend golfer adopts a strong grip he may flip or if you are
teaching something unique here and meant that it doesnt work for what your
teaching....but.... if you look up the research of kelvin miyahara, a
renowed golf teacher out of hawaii and some biomechanics professor he
teamed up with.... they do surveys and studies of tour swings and did like
300 on grip and relationship to clubshaft. they were surprised to find that
the standard grip was not standard. but that a slightly strong 2 1/2 to 3
knuckle grip was by far the majority, with some going 3 or 4 knuckles and
very few going 2 knuckles. even more revealing....they posted pictures of
high speed 300 frame per second impact of each guy corresponding to their
grip and found ZERO guys with a three or four knuckle grip having the
clubshaft pass the hands. guys like tommy gainy, graham mcdowell, jb
holmes. dustin johnson, robert garrigus were what the impact looked like
for 3 and 4 knucklers. pretty much every drive holder was 3 knuckles
plus... i think keegan might have been a little weaker than the rest of the
drive holders. and of the roughly 20 swings that flip-rolled..... all of
them were either weak grips or a combination of weak one hand and the other
neutral. so im surprised to hear someone say that a strong grip causes
flips. guys like ricky fowler, brian gay, daniel chopra, dj trahan, louis
oosthuizen all had weaker grips.
Kevin M: This is one of the best explanations of this detail of the golf swing
online. Very helpful. Thanks!
Jason Reed: I feel like this is a great video for those, very much like myself, who are
constantly laid off at the top. Watching this video was the first time I've
been able to stay on plane to the top and not over swing.
EDTHEWATERGUY: Thank you Herman! For me,this is one of the most important tips I ever
My left hand v points towards my right shoulder like many teachers teach
but no one teaches the right hand v is pointed more towards the chin.Now I
can really feel the compression with the trigger finger and have much more
feel and control of the club face.WOW!
vince guest: Right hand weak,knuckle pushing forward...trigger finger,dorsiflex to some
degree or other in backswing,90* right elbow down and into ribs,weight
shift,palm down..pressure and then throw right palm facing down…got
it!Piece of cake.
Houls61: I struggle with a low hook with my driver. I'm going to work on this grip
and it seems to me with my right hand on top like that I can really rip
through the release and not worry about the snap hook. Thanks.
protokletos: Thank you very much Herman. I just got back from the range and was having
problems with control and I felt very wristy. I already was gripping my
right hand like your video shows, however I was not keeping my right palm
locked onto my left thumb--just as you mention quickly in your video. I
think that solved it for me!
swampThaang: My right wrist is really ruining my swing, I can barely get to impact while
still maintaining a delofted club. Interestingly, when I take my right hand
off the club right before impact my angles look great even after impact.
donny kurniawan: This helps me alot with the right hand not being so dominant, weak right
grip. it Prevents me from rolling over the top swing. thanks!
Jonathan Morgan: Hello Herman- if the right palm is facing away from the golfer at the top
of the swing, won't that put the club in a severe across-the-line
position? I ask because I'm struggling with being across-the-line and
having to re-route the club on the way down to get the club on plane.
Donnie Warren: Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU ! I have struggled for years with
overswinging, casting, flipping and coming out of my posture in my golf
swing. I have tried many different things but I failed to identify the key
role the right hand and trigger finger has in the swing. It wasn't until
this brilliant golf instruction video that I started to look at my grip.
The right hand feels weak, but I am able to really compress and trap the
ball ! The divots are better, and more importantly I have stopped
collapsing and flipping! If there is a "secret" in golf, it has to be in
Daniel Calise: Hi Herman this is a great video on what the right hand does, but can that
flexion cause you to get flat on your take away if you do it to soon? What
is the spelling for flexion , dorside?
Herman Williams Golf: @lovebirdie214 thanks ... vacation is going great - 5th day of golf in a
Herman Williams Golf: James, you could certainly do that, but it likely would impede some of the
flowing speed you get as the club transitions and the wrists set or hinge a
little extra starting down. The other warning is a big forward press often
leads to a takeaway path that is too far inside causing swing plane issues
throughout the rest of swing. avoid thse pitfalls and it may work fine for
you. thanks for commenting
Herman Williams Golf: @breaktrainers Thanks for watching and commenting. The short irons are
naturally easier to release and unfortunately easy to come over the top due
to their shorter length shafts. The result will be pulls. I would first
focus on driving the butt of the club targetward to see if that will keep
your path online while also delaying your release. Simply imagine jamming
the handle to the target prior to impact to delay that release & keep the
shaft straight over your toeline. - Herman
Herman Williams Golf: @Tuck1030 thanks
haricsl: Great set of vids, very concise and articulate. I agree with pretty much
everything you say. However, I too disagree with the right arm push through
swing shot. I agree you can teach a golf swing like that but in my opinion
the feeling should relate more to the left arm swinging as a result of body
pivot, rather than the right arm hitting..imo Thanks
Tony Coppola: Herman, does the right wrist action through the ball feel like any other
common practice? Is it like hammering a nail with a hammer? Thanks, Tony
Herman Williams Golf: A sidearm hammer blow would be similar. Skipping a rock is similar but you
need to let the right hand turnover like a topspin forehand with a tennis
racket or ping pong paddle.
alpione: Thanks for the video! How long should we keep the right wrist bent? It
needs to be so through impact at least to help maintain a flat left wrist,
but when should it be straightened (if at all?)
bizallin: 4:30-5:10 is sheer brilliance.
James Bob: Herman I commented on one of your other videos about the right hand but I
think this answers some of my question. I think a fundamental problem was
in my grip I would re grip and all the rest and right hand would slip off .
Would I be right in saying one purpose of having the right hand like this
is so that it releases in a rotational manner and not scooping? Can I
therefore focus in using the right hand to to trigger the release from the
hand and not think about the left hand ?if grip is right
andeochful: "both palms" , sorry
secretogolf: Herman shouldn't the top of the right wrist postion be at about 45
degrees.In Nicklaus' Golf My Way he has this position as being the best-45
degrees-,sighting that in the tray position there is a better chance of
casting the club.
Herman Williams Golf: @secretogolf Thanks "secret" ... good commentary.
Herman Williams Golf: Simple answer is ... YES. Thanks for watching and commenting. - Herman
hudlumfarter: best video on youtube by miles and miles.
TheMeanmachine87: Great vid! I cast the club late in the downswing. How can hold the lag
senorchipotle: I agree with you up until about 4:15. It's impossible to square up the
clubface in an efficient and repeatable manner using the hands. Isn't it
the body's job to square the clubface by keeping the upper body turning
through the shot and allowing momentum to bring the club through?
Herman Williams Golf: 200 -225 may be ok for what you have to work with. Stronger grip may help
since wrist is immobile. Defintely keep snacking, drinking while playing. 4
hours is a long time to go with nothing, especially with all the walking
and swinging. It's more athletic than people give it credit for.
Herman Williams Golf: Great question ... yes it can. You can actually hinge the wrists either too
far inside, diagonally on-plane or vertically too steep. Certain players
will need one of these extremes of hinge position to fit best with other
elements of their swing plane, posture, shoulder plane, etc. If you think
you tend to get too flat or laid off, you might want more of a vertical
wrist hinge than what's in this video to balance things out at the top.
(dorsiflexion is the spelling) Good luck. - Herman
Herman Williams Golf: Generally when you keep the trailing hand "palm down" as this video
describes, the face stays closed and outside. So it's very unusual to be
under the plane if you execute this correctly. Keep your hands "in" and the
clubhead "out" is my best advice without seeing you swing.
Herman Williams Golf: @mpb1472 Thanks mpb ... good luck on the course.
ubb4me: Ive been working on these wrist positions. Its amazing how many flaws are
cured by having the correct hand positions. I am now hitting the ball
instead of slapping at it. Thanks for the weaker grip suggestion. I tend to
hook the ball more than what I want. I also like the fact that the weaker
grip will flatten my legt wrist more at the top. Thanks for the video.
Jamie Ferguson: Could someone provide a link to the johnny miller golf channel article that
was referred to in this video? I think that would be an interesting in
combination with this video. Big thanks Herman from Scotland :)
D Cobb: Herman, I've felt for many years that my right hand, wrist, and arm, along
with my right hand grip were wrecking my swing. Especially my right hand
grip and right wrist condition throughout my swing. I see that you're in
Raleigh. I'm only an hour away. Looks like I will be driving to Raleigh to
see you. Thanks for the great video and make room for me on your lesson
book. I'll email you soon.
FrankN Shank: SPOT ON! This is the stuff that makes the golf swing WORK!
hardcoremofo: I keep rolling my wrists and it gets stuck in the inside on the way back
and gets more stuck where it changes the plane to the right. Where should I
do with my wrists and when/how to hinge it?
Herman Williams Golf: @gomezzz21 Thanks. Glad you like it and appreciate the comments and views.
victorhsu813: Hi there. I will definitely give this a try. Does this apply when hitting
driver, fairway woods and all irons?
Curtis Walton: Herman glad to see you addressing the right hand. I have noticed that
during the last season I developed on my index finger (pad closest to my
hand) (of the right hand) a rather substantial calous. Is this an
indication that my grip is not correct...or that it is? or that my swing is
Herman Williams Golf: Apparently we disagree, but thanks for commenting and providing your input.
It will surely help some on this forum. The humans swinging the club are
the difficult, unpredictable part of the process. What you describe will
work for some, but in my experience most amateurs at least will struggle
with that description. They turn the body thru and wipe across the ball
with the face wide open. Granted if the face is closed enough at hip high
coming down, then you can just turn through.
secretogolf: Great alignment tip for the rear hand,fingers and wrist.This move also
creates great width and extension in the backswing making it easy to drop
into the slot with lots of lag and speed coming through impact.Knowing
these alignments and movements we can control as golfers is truly how to
Herman Williams Golf: @birdienfool Hey Rob, I was a "birdie 'n fool" on my inward nine today. :)
The belly putter is working ... drained a 35 footer on last hole for 33 on
the back. We won't talk about the front side. :) Yeah unfortunately the
cold front dipped down here and our last two morning rounds started in the
40's for temps and very windy, upwards of 20 mph. Still fun to be playing
though. Thanks for watching and commenting on the videos. Herman
Gary Lewis: Great video. My right hand has slipped off the top of the left thumb,
causing disconnection at the top, cupped left, and pretty straight right
wrist. Am now working on the right hand grip back on top of left thumb and
the trigger position. That means left wrist will cup more for
awhile,resulting in push fades until swing improvements are made. People
with limited external shoulder rotation might have to work on flexibility
to be able to get the proper right elbow and wrist positions.
crisisofconsciousnes: my right wrist really prevents me keeping a straight left wrist, help!!??
birdienfool: Herman, another great Video. You're working while on vacation !!! And
wearing a turtleneck in south florida - thats just not right - hope the sun
comes out for you. Really miss seeing the little short training club, and
cant believe you left home without it!! Will certainly give this a try on
my mat tonight since everything is frozen up here in Michigan !! Thanks for
the "feel like" descriptions that other instructors dont include! Enjoy